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we have a note for pete williams. two sources tell nbc news that two people have video of a person placing a black bag down. one confirm authorities have video of several individuals including this one person who they are interested in questioning. these have been described to nbc has solid leads. looking for him to question. this is what we are getting at nbc news from law enforcement officials. not about an arrest. not about an identified suspect per say. but that they have leads based on the video surveillance cameras that they have had access to. >> we know this. a security camera is the camera which has captured much of the video that law enforcement officials are using in their investigation. that is from google maps and that is the camera on the corner of the lord and taylor. nbc news investigative producer on this. bob, maybe you can answer a fundamental question from our viewers. >>> it is the hallmark of this investigation. and he is said to one of the things that we have to be assured of is that we are gett
we have a note for pete williams. two sources tell nbc news that two people have video of a person placing a black bag down. one confirm authorities have video of several individuals including this one person who they are interested in questioning. these have been described to nbc has solid leads. looking for him to question. this is what we are getting at nbc news from law enforcement officials. not about an arrest. not about an identified suspect per say. but that they have leads based on the...
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thank you, pete williams. for joining us. pete william, justice correspondent for nbc news. clint van zandt, msnbc political analyst, and phillip mudd, former cia analyst, former deputy director of the fbi national security branch. he's author of the book "takedown." i wonder, i know we're filled in this country with strange thinking people, truthers, birthers that have off the wall theories. i don't know how anybody could look at this evidence presented so far and have some other theory of the case besides the indictment, itself. >> no, it's really coming together. i mean, there's -- as terrible as this case is and was, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of heavy lifting. we've got the two primary individuals. it's obvious that they had hands on the devices. the pieces we don't have, chris, are where was their inspiration? where did they get the guidance? who taught them how to build the bombs? >> why is that important? why is that important to -- is that important to prosecuting? i mean, what difference does it make why they did it if they did it? i'm being tough here. w
thank you, pete williams. for joining us. pete william, justice correspondent for nbc news. clint van zandt, msnbc political analyst, and phillip mudd, former cia analyst, former deputy director of the fbi national security branch. he's author of the book "takedown." i wonder, i know we're filled in this country with strange thinking people, truthers, birthers that have off the wall theories. i don't know how anybody could look at this evidence presented so far and have some other...
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the latest we have out here, pete williams, nbc news. haes be he has been right on this one all along. the investigators believe they know where suspect number two is hold up here in watertown. police helicopter flying over the city. now, it is just frozen in the air. it is stationary i would guess maybe a mile from where i'm standing here with all the gathered media from around the world. police keeping us in this spot. no one being allowed to go into watertown. the entire mass transit system in boston is shout down. they did not want suspect number two to escape. suspect number one was shot and killed overnight. there is a report that he had explosives strapped to him. they had certainly thrown explosives at officers as they chased that mercedes suv that they had car jacked. the concern is that suspect number two may have explosives strapped to him, sefrcertainly available to him. knowing where he is is one thing. figuring out how to get him out without someone else in the neighborhood or area being injured or killed would be another.
the latest we have out here, pete williams, nbc news. haes be he has been right on this one all along. the investigators believe they know where suspect number two is hold up here in watertown. police helicopter flying over the city. now, it is just frozen in the air. it is stationary i would guess maybe a mile from where i'm standing here with all the gathered media from around the world. police keeping us in this spot. no one being allowed to go into watertown. the entire mass transit system...
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nbc news justice correspondent pete williams has the very latest. >> at 2:38 last monday afternoon, 11 minutes before the first bomb goes off the fbi says, a surveillance camera catches dzhokhar tsarnaev and tamerlan tsarnaev walking towards the finish line with backpacks, a second and crucial piece of video, the fbi says, comes from a surveillance camera mounted on this restaurant. at 2:42, court documents say the still unreleased video shows dzhokhar tsarnaev with a backpack walked towards the scene of a second bombing. at 2:45, he slips his backpack off. still photos show the backpack on the ground at his feet. when the first bomb goes off, the fbi says, the video shows the crowd looking towards the finish line in alarm. but the fbi says tsarnaev virtually alone among the individuals in front of the strauvent appears calm. he walks away, it says, without his backpack, and ten seconds later, the second bomb goes off in the spot where he left the backpack. the fbi says both the marathon bombs were made with pressure cookers and metal bee-bees. they contained hobby fuse similar to this
nbc news justice correspondent pete williams has the very latest. >> at 2:38 last monday afternoon, 11 minutes before the first bomb goes off the fbi says, a surveillance camera catches dzhokhar tsarnaev and tamerlan tsarnaev walking towards the finish line with backpacks, a second and crucial piece of video, the fbi says, comes from a surveillance camera mounted on this restaurant. at 2:42, court documents say the still unreleased video shows dzhokhar tsarnaev with a backpack walked...
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this is just coming from pete williams of nbc news. last night, police in watertown, massachusetts, got into a shootout with both suspects. they ever both brothers from chechnya. you might recall the surveillance photos. the one in the black cap, 26-year-old sam german tsarnaev, ted not only of a gunshot wounds but shrapnel wounds and thermal wounds indicating he might have been hurt by an explosive device. the brothers did reportedly throw at least one bomb during a shootout with police. the suspect in the white cap, he is 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev. he is the one that we are still looking for. he told the "associated press" that he was an angel. police ask asked you to shelter in place and not open the door unless it is police. we will have more updates in two minutes. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! ♪ wow. [ buzz ] delicious, right? yeah. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... ♪ well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? bee happy. b
this is just coming from pete williams of nbc news. last night, police in watertown, massachusetts, got into a shootout with both suspects. they ever both brothers from chechnya. you might recall the surveillance photos. the one in the black cap, 26-year-old sam german tsarnaev, ted not only of a gunshot wounds but shrapnel wounds and thermal wounds indicating he might have been hurt by an explosive device. the brothers did reportedly throw at least one bomb during a shootout with police. the...
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in the entire williams family. >> on a serious note, pete williams did do a fantastic job. >> will i am may have done well, too. >> steve colbert is thanking canadians after they thwarted a train attacks on trains in canada. take a look. >>> the royal canadian police or mountties have thwarted an al qaeda-enspiefrd terrorist attack, with i is quite a feat considering how hard it is for them to go undercover. so, folks, i would just like to say a word to our friend up north, you canadians are a brave and heroic people. if i have said it once, this is the one time i said it. >> he did update their uniforms, those mountties. >> the bearded mounted police. >> i don't know how they do it. >> it's iconic. >>> now, the moment we have all been waiting for, twitter's most infamous twitter makes a return, former new york congressman anthony weiner sent his first message from a new account yesterday, just about two years after the twitter crotch shot photos forced him to step down. >> what did he say? >> he sent out links to keep new york the capital of the middle clas. >> nap time. >> weiner i
in the entire williams family. >> on a serious note, pete williams did do a fantastic job. >> will i am may have done well, too. >> steve colbert is thanking canadians after they thwarted a train attacks on trains in canada. take a look. >>> the royal canadian police or mountties have thwarted an al qaeda-enspiefrd terrorist attack, with i is quite a feat considering how hard it is for them to go undercover. so, folks, i would just like to say a word to our friend up...
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i think there is going to be a civil court process as pete william has talked about. he's not been mirandaized yet but he's going to be. they'll use the public safety exception for as long as necessary. there will be the usual chatter about that. frankly, that's white noise. he will be prosecuted in a civilian court and the long process of building the case, judicial case through the forensics and investigative work and the chain of evidence is going to be incredibly solid because of what we've seen so far over the past four days of the investigation. >> can i press you on one point there? >> yes. >> the reason we can't take a deep breath, let me explain why this is the question at the moment. the things we have confirmed about the suspect are the suspect's name. we know quite a bit about the suspect thanks to a social media presence and the reporting that's gone on. we know the suspect is in custody. we do not know the suspect's health at the moment. what we do know are reports that the suspect has not been mirandized. the public safety exception is pursuant to a sup
i think there is going to be a civil court process as pete william has talked about. he's not been mirandaized yet but he's going to be. they'll use the public safety exception for as long as necessary. there will be the usual chatter about that. frankly, that's white noise. he will be prosecuted in a civilian court and the long process of building the case, judicial case through the forensics and investigative work and the chain of evidence is going to be incredibly solid because of what we've...
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this is pete williams. several officials familiar with the initial interrogation of dzhokhar tsarnaev at the hospital in boston describe him as cooperative, a senior government official tells nbc news that tsarnaev has told them by writing some answers and by nodding yes or shaking his head no to others that he and his brother were not in touch with any overseas terrorists or groups. and that they conceived the bombing attack on their own, motivated he told them by religious fervor. they got their instructions on how to make bombs from the internet, he said, according to these officials. again, that is breaking news from just moments ago from pete williams at nbc news. we'll give you more on that as we learn it. >>> today at beth israel medical center in boston, a federal court hearing was called to order in the hospital room. a federal magistrate judge came to the hospital along with the defense attorney and the prosecutor, and late this afternoon they released a transcript of the court hearing conducted r
this is pete williams. several officials familiar with the initial interrogation of dzhokhar tsarnaev at the hospital in boston describe him as cooperative, a senior government official tells nbc news that tsarnaev has told them by writing some answers and by nodding yes or shaking his head no to others that he and his brother were not in touch with any overseas terrorists or groups. and that they conceived the bombing attack on their own, motivated he told them by religious fervor. they got...
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right now, we don't have any reports, as you've been hearing from pete williams. if they want it question somebody or know who that exact person is. but if they do get somebody, suspicion is they will be brought to the courthouse. >> nbc news expert michael leiter also been reporting on this. why all of the conflicting information? >> frankly, we have a lot of reporters running stories that aren't perfectly sourced. everyone is trying to beat someone to the gun rather than necessarily getting things right. and there is inherent confusion in government especially when have you multiple agencies working this. people get called and they aren't really involved in what is going on but they feel like they have to prove their worth and they are saying things that they don't know. so people are trying it make a names for themselves on the inside. people are trying to make a name for themselves on the outside. unfortunately you end up taking time away from investigators trying to do the work. >> let's get back to the investigation. we know there will be an fbi press confer
right now, we don't have any reports, as you've been hearing from pete williams. if they want it question somebody or know who that exact person is. but if they do get somebody, suspicion is they will be brought to the courthouse. >> nbc news expert michael leiter also been reporting on this. why all of the conflicting information? >> frankly, we have a lot of reporters running stories that aren't perfectly sourced. everyone is trying to beat someone to the gun rather than...
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the prior -- conversation with pete williams was especially interesting. here's a little more of what we know. pete reported on part of this earlier. the 7-eleven robbery takes place a few blocks on the north street and cambridge where the two brothers lived. robbed the 7-eleven. they then shoot the m.i.t. campus police officer, who is in his car. the reasoning we're told is he, they probably thought that the police officer recognized them from their photographs being published everywhere and up on the tv screens everywhere and hours earlier by the fbi in the afternoon. they carjack an individual who is driving a mercedes suv. authorities know who the individual is. the news media know who the individual is. we know his name. we're not going to report his name, obviously. he has been fully debriefed. and is really part of a really interesting equation to this whole awful, awful story. in that they hijacked the car. they take his credit card. and they make three different attempts with his credit card to withdraw money from atm machines. the first one faile
the prior -- conversation with pete williams was especially interesting. here's a little more of what we know. pete reported on part of this earlier. the 7-eleven robbery takes place a few blocks on the north street and cambridge where the two brothers lived. robbed the 7-eleven. they then shoot the m.i.t. campus police officer, who is in his car. the reasoning we're told is he, they probably thought that the police officer recognized them from their photographs being published everywhere and...
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williams. >> this is coming from pete williams at nbc news, that they have been -- he's been told that the brothers came with their families to the united states in either 2002 or 2003. one of them, 26, born in russia. became a permanent resident in 2007. the other has a massachusetts driver's license and is a resident of cambridge. >> one was how old? >> one is 26. the and the other perhaps is 19. but unclear. unclear. >> the birth date we had on the massachusetts driver's license would make him 19, 19 1/2 to be more specific. yeah. july 1993. so that's interesting new information. because it was earlier information they were only a year or so apart. there was some question about how long they had been in the country. earlier reports from pete williams were that it was at least a year. and now we know if that report is correct that the family had been in the country 10 years. >> scott, thank you very much. we'll check back with you in just a little bit. >> matt: meantime, we have ambassador woolsy on the line. mr. am bass dorks you have heard everything that's been happening here. wha
williams. >> this is coming from pete williams at nbc news, that they have been -- he's been told that the brothers came with their families to the united states in either 2002 or 2003. one of them, 26, born in russia. became a permanent resident in 2007. the other has a massachusetts driver's license and is a resident of cambridge. >> one was how old? >> one is 26. the and the other perhaps is 19. but unclear. unclear. >> the birth date we had on the massachusetts...
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>> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect.story? >> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect. they may have him in court later. we believe he's from tupelo, mississippi. we're not sure on his name. but pete williams reporting that story and of course cnbc will have all the details for you on that 8:00 p.m. news conference as well as this late breaking development in the ricin letters. >> thanks very much. now, president obama's gun control agenda was dealt devastating blow today. 54 senators including five democrats voted to defeat a proposal to expand background checks. >> a main setback for those in favor of heightening the rules. expanding gun background checks failed to win over the senate. it was a plan put together by senator joe manchin and pat toomey. it needed 60 votes to move ahead and it got only 54. president obama briefed the press shortly after the vote. he repeated the importance of gun control and expressed his own frustration. he even said the gun lobby willfully lied about the bil
>> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect.story? >> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect. they may have him in court later. we believe he's from tupelo, mississippi. we're not sure on his name. but pete williams reporting that story and of course cnbc will have all the details for you on that 8:00 p.m. news conference as well as this late breaking development in the ricin letters. >> thanks very much. now,...
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they knew what actions and what device on internet he was going -- >> joining us now pete williams, nbc news analyst an former deputy of counter terrorism, nbc news terrorism analyst, roger. let's start with what we're waiting for immediately, pete, which is an update on the condition. apparently doctors meeting with the fbi. what do we know about his injuries from yesterday? >> not much. we don't have many details, just what we've heard from people who have been involved in the case. and apparently we know of fact of course that the authorities say he was wounded in that shootout with police in watertown late thursday night, friday morning. as a matter of fact that's how we was discovered. he was bleeding profusely and they found the blood stains on the boat and that's what led to him. we know he's wounded. one of the wounds is in his mouth or the throat so it's difficult for him to speak and that suggests that the interrogation won't be starting for a couple of days or whenever it is that he can answer questions. >> it was interesting that jam cavanaugh, the former fbi special agent,
they knew what actions and what device on internet he was going -- >> joining us now pete williams, nbc news analyst an former deputy of counter terrorism, nbc news terrorism analyst, roger. let's start with what we're waiting for immediately, pete, which is an update on the condition. apparently doctors meeting with the fbi. what do we know about his injuries from yesterday? >> not much. we don't have many details, just what we've heard from people who have been involved in the...
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williams for all of your reporting this week, what you do better than anybody else. we appreciate it and appreciate you being here this morning. up next, as we get to know more about the suspects and some of the motivations behind the bombings this week, is there now a new sense of vulnerability to the country? a special discussion is coming up. joining me nbc's tom brokaw, peggy noonan, and bloomberg news jeffrey goldberg also of "the atlantic" magazine. an emotional week for boston and for the country as we were all on high alert and as we search for meaning in it all, we'll get the first draft of history through the eyes of the one and only doris kearns goodwin, herself a bostonian. revolutionizing an industry can be a tough act to follow, but at xerox we've embraced a new role. working behind the scenes to provide companies with services... like helping hr departments manage benefits and pensions for over 11 million employees. reducing document costs by up to 30%... and processing $421 billion dollars in accounts payables each year. helping thousands of companies
williams for all of your reporting this week, what you do better than anybody else. we appreciate it and appreciate you being here this morning. up next, as we get to know more about the suspects and some of the motivations behind the bombings this week, is there now a new sense of vulnerability to the country? a special discussion is coming up. joining me nbc's tom brokaw, peggy noonan, and bloomberg news jeffrey goldberg also of "the atlantic" magazine. an emotional week for boston...
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nbc news's pete williams says the suspect is being questioned for brief periods. we don't yet know what he's telling investigators through those written messages. we're also learning the justice department will not file charges against him today as previously thought. that may happen tomorrow. also in boston today, many people stopped to remember the victims and reflect on what has been an overwhelming week in their city. nbc bay area's jay gray has been following the bombings and the aftermath. he has the latest. >> reporter: good evening. investigators continue to clear out areas inside the crime scene, and as more of this city now begins to open, many today were drawn here to the area near egs whe est where it happened ♪ >> reporter: sometimes there's a strength in simply being together. >> people are going to have to band together and be with their loved ones and work through it by talking and feeling. >> reporter: hundreds from different faiths gathered near the blast site this morning, some whose churches were damaged in the attack, still resilient but als
nbc news's pete williams says the suspect is being questioned for brief periods. we don't yet know what he's telling investigators through those written messages. we're also learning the justice department will not file charges against him today as previously thought. that may happen tomorrow. also in boston today, many people stopped to remember the victims and reflect on what has been an overwhelming week in their city. nbc bay area's jay gray has been following the bombings and the...
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it would i think stand up if challenged in court. >> nbc news' pete williams. thank you very much more joining us tonight and thank you very much for your steady guidance throughout this difficult week. >> very kind of you. thank you. >> we are going to take a break, we'll be back with much more from boston. bob will retire whe, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. [ construction sounds ] ♪ [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ departure. hertz gold plus rewards also offers ereturn-
it would i think stand up if challenged in court. >> nbc news' pete williams. thank you very much more joining us tonight and thank you very much for your steady guidance throughout this difficult week. >> very kind of you. thank you. >> we are going to take a break, we'll be back with much more from boston. bob will retire whe, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a...
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let's bring in pete williams who has been watching this as well. what are you hearing? pete williams has been watching this story for us. we have michael with us as well since overnight. michael, early on today about seven hours ago, you reported the first suspect that was confirmed dead. what are you hearing at the moment from your sources? >> at the moment, we are all waiting on the results to see if they have the primary suspect surrounded. if they are going to take him into custody and then the alleged accomplice on the connecticut police who took the amtrak train in connecticut. a couple of things. we are still standing behind the principal staging area where we had convoys and military vehicles and trucks and buses and motorcycles as though they were planning for a confrontation of some kind. the intensity of the activity seems to have awaited. we suggest that the reports of the cordoned off area may be real and that's where the principal confrontation will be taking place. the thing to remember is the ied that was found in the city of charlestown was the real rea
let's bring in pete williams who has been watching this as well. what are you hearing? pete williams has been watching this story for us. we have michael with us as well since overnight. michael, early on today about seven hours ago, you reported the first suspect that was confirmed dead. what are you hearing at the moment from your sources? >> at the moment, we are all waiting on the results to see if they have the primary suspect surrounded. if they are going to take him into custody...
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williams. pete, i'd like to go to you first, given what the president just said coming out and saying it is an act of terror does not come as much of a surprise, given the contours of this. but still something worth remarking on in terms of how the white house is handling this event. >> perhaps so. but this is a case of you know, do as i say, not as i do. or perhaps actions speak louder than words, is what i meant. the very fact that it was announced last night that the fbi was taking the lead in this investigation answered the question. because the fbi has jurisdiction in a case like this only if it's considered an act of terrorism. we crossed that bridge last night. with the words were used or not. in terms of the investigation, let's just clear up a couple of points that were confusing overnight. just two devices, there was a suggestion there were others because so many packages had to be destroyed. there was mixed information about whether any of them campaigned explosives, they did not. sp
williams. pete, i'd like to go to you first, given what the president just said coming out and saying it is an act of terror does not come as much of a surprise, given the contours of this. but still something worth remarking on in terms of how the white house is handling this event. >> perhaps so. but this is a case of you know, do as i say, not as i do. or perhaps actions speak louder than words, is what i meant. the very fact that it was announced last night that the fbi was taking the...
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when you looked at the surveillance video, when you hear what pete williams is reporting about their backgrounds, what leaps to mind? what do you think we can ascertain from those facts? >> these guys had a plan. when i saw the video, seemed like they knew what they were doing. they were moving with a purpose. they were calm. it eerily reminded me of the mumbai attacks. you can't tell too much from the brief videotape that we saw that was released to the public but it appeared they were calm and moving with a purpose. >> we now have a name and putting together a bit of a background. at least one of them was a legal permanent resident who had a massachusetts driver's license. there is a long and sad history of strife in chechnya and acts of terrorism. >> you have to look at that original of terrorism. this is where we can't jump to conclusions yet. we're going to be relying on our foreign intelligence partners in russia and turkey because it was believed these men lived in turkey. we want to find out do they come from a lineage of terrorists. do they have military training. we'll try
when you looked at the surveillance video, when you hear what pete williams is reporting about their backgrounds, what leaps to mind? what do you think we can ascertain from those facts? >> these guys had a plan. when i saw the video, seemed like they knew what they were doing. they were moving with a purpose. they were calm. it eerily reminded me of the mumbai attacks. you can't tell too much from the brief videotape that we saw that was released to the public but it appeared they were...
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. >> all right, pete williams tonight, thank you. >>> as authorities search for answers, they are turning more of their attention to a trip the older brother made last year to the russian republics of chechnya and dagestan, both mainly muslim, both with militant separatist movements. tonight nbc's adrian mong is in dagestan in the neighborhood where some of the suspect's family lives. >> reporter: a long way from boston in this remote mountainous city in dagestan in the northern caucasus, relatives and friends of the suspected bombers are in shock over the news that two of their own may have been responsible for the marathon bombings. "i don't believe it but only allah knows," says an uncle of the brothers. tamerlan tsarnaev visited him when he traveled to dagestan last year. in the neighborhood where tamerlan and dzhokhar's father lives, the same sentiment. neighbors here on the street tell us they have a hard time believing what happened because they say the suspect's father is a good man. but the neighbors also say they haven't met the sons. dagestan is the russian federation's oldest,
. >> all right, pete williams tonight, thank you. >>> as authorities search for answers, they are turning more of their attention to a trip the older brother made last year to the russian republics of chechnya and dagestan, both mainly muslim, both with militant separatist movements. tonight nbc's adrian mong is in dagestan in the neighborhood where some of the suspect's family lives. >> reporter: a long way from boston in this remote mountainous city in dagestan in the...
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what do you make of the news reported by our own pete williams? that the older brother, tamerlan, had a bomb strapped to him when he died? because we had two bombs at the marathon. we had a bomb tossed from a vehicle yesterday evening. we had a bomb strapped to this individual. i'm assuming that law enforcement believes that these two individuals have been working pretty hard at developing a series of these devices. ieds and so on. >> clearly, martin, it's a bombing campaign. i think -- >> it really is. >> that's what it was. i think if you listen to richard engel and roger cressey, they're giving you the great insight into the minds and the transformation process to become a suicide bomber. and no matter what speculation, what information we don't have, the information we do have is suicide bombers. they have -- at least one had it strapped on their chest and another one. that's an incredible transformation, even a bomber, to be a suicide bomber. that was a major change. law enforcement killed him. now we may have a suicide bomber, you know, on t
what do you make of the news reported by our own pete williams? that the older brother, tamerlan, had a bomb strapped to him when he died? because we had two bombs at the marathon. we had a bomb tossed from a vehicle yesterday evening. we had a bomb strapped to this individual. i'm assuming that law enforcement believes that these two individuals have been working pretty hard at developing a series of these devices. ieds and so on. >> clearly, martin, it's a bombing campaign. i think --...
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nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams is in washington. nbc's ron allen outside boston's beth israel medical center where, again, the suspect and many of the victims are being treated. let's start with the investigation, pete. what are investigators doing today? >> well, today is very much like any kind of a bombing investigation would be after all of the concern of yesterday is out of the window, now that he is in custody. and that means going through all of his communications. there will be several tracts here, who has he been talking to? what is on his computer? who has he been e-mailing? what has he been looking at on the internet is he has not traveled outside the country, unlike his brother. is he in touch with people overseas? are there people with whom he was in contact? was he inspired by others? what caused him to become radical? did he get money to do this? where did he buy the bomb parts? these are questioning he is they are looking at energy addition to going through the pictures this received to see if they got better images
nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams is in washington. nbc's ron allen outside boston's beth israel medical center where, again, the suspect and many of the victims are being treated. let's start with the investigation, pete. what are investigators doing today? >> well, today is very much like any kind of a bombing investigation would be after all of the concern of yesterday is out of the window, now that he is in custody. and that means going through all of his communications....
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we are just getting this report from pete williams, michael. first of all, the names of the suspected and some updates on their ages. dzhokhar born in 1993 identified by the fbi as wearing the white hat. he does have confirming a massachusetts license. a resident of cambridge and we are told now he was born in kyrgyzstan. his brother's age is 26 and born in russia and became a permanent legal residents in 2007. also pete williams reporting we are told the brothers came with their family to the united states in either 2002 or 2003. very fresh information. no reason to draw any conclusions from just this. just more pieces of the puzzle that we will slowly pull together. the bigger issue now is the manhunt under wail and the safety of the people in the boston and watertown area. having that said, michael, given your experience and without going too far, let's look at what has happened. let's look at what they reportedly have done to attack in the way they did, the boston marathon. an international event. iconic american event. the oldest marathon
we are just getting this report from pete williams, michael. first of all, the names of the suspected and some updates on their ages. dzhokhar born in 1993 identified by the fbi as wearing the white hat. he does have confirming a massachusetts license. a resident of cambridge and we are told now he was born in kyrgyzstan. his brother's age is 26 and born in russia and became a permanent legal residents in 2007. also pete williams reporting we are told the brothers came with their family to the...
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as pete williams points out, there are many cautions now. because once these pictures are in the public domain, there will be more fits and starts and numerous false alarms. thatst the nature of the business. but for now, the fbi has told us there are two suspects. suspect one and suspect two. both of them young males, approximately, appearing to be the same age. one wearing a white baseball cap. we have them actually reverse there. that suspect two on the left with the white hat. suspect one on the right, a v-neck white t-shirt, raincoat. what they have in common. both carrying substantially sized backpacks, though, in fairness, no larger than many of the parcels we've seen people carry at public events and no larger than many of the backpacks than adjacent in the photography. now the dissemination is underway on people's personal devices, on television, and on broadcasts like "nbc nightly news." we'll be along with that as we get later into the evening, about an hour from now on the east coast. for our team from boston to washington, i'm b
as pete williams points out, there are many cautions now. because once these pictures are in the public domain, there will be more fits and starts and numerous false alarms. thatst the nature of the business. but for now, the fbi has told us there are two suspects. suspect one and suspect two. both of them young males, approximately, appearing to be the same age. one wearing a white baseball cap. we have them actually reverse there. that suspect two on the left with the white hat. suspect one...
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it's been a lot of pete williams all morning. i have more pete williams. he reports officials think they know where this suspect in the white hat is holed up. they think they have located him. he also says that there may be a third person of interest in this now. there is definitely something going on boston right now. some outlets report that they smell smoke in the area. cnn just had a reporter on the scene and was reporting from where there is a lot of police activity and a police officer came up and told her to get out of the area and they are trying to reestablish a shot and police are sort of swarming around that cameraman. something is going on right now. i am not sure what it is. we will you know. >> is this the same office apartment complex? >> this is a different complex than the one they were looking at earlier. >> chris, you know, i was seeing something, but i haven't been able to watch. are there any videos on youtube of these guys? i had seen something of twitter. does that provide any clues of who these guys are? >> yes. there is actually ha
it's been a lot of pete williams all morning. i have more pete williams. he reports officials think they know where this suspect in the white hat is holed up. they think they have located him. he also says that there may be a third person of interest in this now. there is definitely something going on boston right now. some outlets report that they smell smoke in the area. cnn just had a reporter on the scene and was reporting from where there is a lot of police activity and a police officer...
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in addition to that, this is per pete williams of nbc news. he now reports that the boston marathon bomber manhunt is now down to one person, the younger brother. initially, earlier today, there was some speculation that perhaps there was a third suspect. that is now being downplayed. and pete williams reports that the manhunt down to one person. in addition to that, the police officials are now telling pete williams that during the early morning watertown gun battle between police and the two brothers, about 200 rounds were exchanged. they have found seven ieds, improvised devices, that have been removed, in searches so far in watertown and also some from the house in cambridge. in addition to that, we have obtained these pictures from the owner of a shell station, which we're going to show you right now, and i want to explain the fact that, obviously, the younger brother is in the forefront, leaving the shell station there, but we've blacked out or blurred out the face of the second individual, because we don't know that the time stamp on th
in addition to that, this is per pete williams of nbc news. he now reports that the boston marathon bomber manhunt is now down to one person, the younger brother. initially, earlier today, there was some speculation that perhaps there was a third suspect. that is now being downplayed. and pete williams reports that the manhunt down to one person. in addition to that, the police officials are now telling pete williams that during the early morning watertown gun battle between police and the two...
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nbc news' pete williams points out that one of the pressure cooker lids ended up on the roof of a nearby building because the force of the explosion was so great. this photo shows bbs and a nail believed to be part of the shrapnel in one of the bombs along what could be the zipper from one of those black backpacks or nylon bags authorities have mentioned. investigators know the type of batteries use and michael isikoff reports they were in a battery pack made by a company in california used to power toy cars and often for sale in hobby shops. officials have opened up more of the area around the crime scene, focusing their investigation primarily on those two explosion points and the stretch of boylston street. i'm joined now by massachusetts governor deval patrick. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, lawrence. >> i'd like you to tell the story about how you found out about these explosions. i heard you explain this on a local interview. >> i had been out at the finish line crowning the men's and women's winners earlier in the day and i had finished up, i don't know, 1:00 or so -- >>
nbc news' pete williams points out that one of the pressure cooker lids ended up on the roof of a nearby building because the force of the explosion was so great. this photo shows bbs and a nail believed to be part of the shrapnel in one of the bombs along what could be the zipper from one of those black backpacks or nylon bags authorities have mentioned. investigators know the type of batteries use and michael isikoff reports they were in a battery pack made by a company in california used to...
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it is coming from nbc pete williams. a senior law enforcement official says it appears there were two unbloweded devices. just two that went off. police are studying surveillance to see if they can see anybody with packages where the bombs went off. there is a video of someone carrying two backpacks but it is too early to know whether that was related to the attack. >> social media played a huge role in the last 24 hours. the aftermath of the bombings at the boston marathon. boston police confirmed the explosions in a tweet at 3:39 p.m. eastern time and provided updates and subsequent tweets throughout the afternoon and into the evening. i'm not sure this had been done before. witnesses sent updates as people around the country followed the attack. and foursquare was actually running in the marathon, the ceo. i'm okay. about 20k of us in coral just before mile 26 marker. the hashtag spiked after the attack. and google set up what's called a person finder page for the marathon sphoeexplosions. it was used in a couple othe
it is coming from nbc pete williams. a senior law enforcement official says it appears there were two unbloweded devices. just two that went off. police are studying surveillance to see if they can see anybody with packages where the bombs went off. there is a video of someone carrying two backpacks but it is too early to know whether that was related to the attack. >> social media played a huge role in the last 24 hours. the aftermath of the bombings at the boston marathon. boston police...
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nbc news pete williams reported that the bombs were triggered by a timer as opposed to a remote detonator. we learned this type of bomb is frequently used in afghanistan and iraq, but also recently popped up in the u.s. one of the devices used in the times square attempted bombing was apparently a pressure cooker. now, we are hearing about a press conference at the top of the hour. we'll carry it live for you on nbc 4 and nbcwashington.com. >>> all right, thank you, aaron. >>> and we're finding out more about the victims killed as the identities were revealed. three died yesterday, we now know two names, 29-year-old krystle campbell is one just confirmed to nbc news by her father this afternoon. she was a restaurant manager from medford massachusetts. this other guy, 8 years old, killed while they stood by the finish line. neighbors are haunted by this traged tragedy. >> to know he will never come home, it kept me up. >> martin released a statement, saying the wife and daughter suffered injuries, he asked others to pray for his family. stay with us for continuing coverage, and coming up a
nbc news pete williams reported that the bombs were triggered by a timer as opposed to a remote detonator. we learned this type of bomb is frequently used in afghanistan and iraq, but also recently popped up in the u.s. one of the devices used in the times square attempted bombing was apparently a pressure cooker. now, we are hearing about a press conference at the top of the hour. we'll carry it live for you on nbc 4 and nbcwashington.com. >>> all right, thank you, aaron. >>>...
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according to pete williams and court documents. there has been a legal procedure in the hospital room, obviously, the defendant has agreed to an order of voluntary detention without prejudice. the defendant declined to answer bail questions in a probable cause hearing may 30th at 10:00 a.m. the court is satisfied the defendant is alert and able to respond to the charges. the defendant is remanded to the custody of fbi agents and was presented to u.s. marshals. he was advised of his rights and the charges against him. the government states the maximum penalties and is moved to detention. and there is a charge of using a weapon of mass destruction, the bomb, and that would include a possible death penalty phase if it were to come to that. although massachusetts does not have the death penalty. this is a federal case. david rode joins me now. he is the author of a pulitzer prize winner and the author of beyond warning reimagining american influence. we want to talk to you about your experience. you were held, you were kidnapped by the
according to pete williams and court documents. there has been a legal procedure in the hospital room, obviously, the defendant has agreed to an order of voluntary detention without prejudice. the defendant declined to answer bail questions in a probable cause hearing may 30th at 10:00 a.m. the court is satisfied the defendant is alert and able to respond to the charges. the defendant is remanded to the custody of fbi agents and was presented to u.s. marshals. he was advised of his rights and...
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pete williams has reported now that his brother, his own brother in fleeing in that mercedes suv ran over his own brother. eventually that suspect died at the hospital. but we can't overstate how remarkable it's been this morning, chuck, that there is a lockdown of a major american city. a shelter in place, as it is known. this is the kind of thing you hear about when there's chemical leaks or huge gas explosions. people stay inside for their own health and well being. we talked to police chief john timany who headed up the police departments in philadelphia and we talked to michael chertoff this morning and neither of them could remember a situation, not only where this has happened but where it is considered to shut down and ask all residents of a major american city to go inside. they talked about it during 9/11, but decided against it. you have people in a middle class town seeing s.w.a.t teams out their window. a no-fly zone over a small town in the western suburbs of boston. it is unprecedented. >> it's unbelievable there, willie. thank you. >>> want to bring in roger, a long-t
pete williams has reported now that his brother, his own brother in fleeing in that mercedes suv ran over his own brother. eventually that suspect died at the hospital. but we can't overstate how remarkable it's been this morning, chuck, that there is a lockdown of a major american city. a shelter in place, as it is known. this is the kind of thing you hear about when there's chemical leaks or huge gas explosions. people stay inside for their own health and well being. we talked to police chief...
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pete williams, the big question at this moment, was there a foreign connection to terrorism? what do we know? >> well, we don't know the answer to that question. the big gap here is what was the older brother doing in russia for six months last year? he leaves in january, arrives in july, and the russians have told the fbi that they were a little worried about him. but what was he doing during all that time in russia? his father says he was visiting him, that he went to see his family, went to renew his russian passport while he was awaiting american citizenship. he was here as a lawful permanent resident. did he -- the thing i think that's the biggest question for investigators now is, "a," why did he turn this way? but, "b," where did he get his expertise in explosives? where did he practice them? it seems really unlikely these two bombs successfully were detonated without some practice runs. where did he learn to do that? where did he practice? those are the big questions. >> we look at the pictures of the suspects and biographical information we have, dzhokhar, who is the
pete williams, the big question at this moment, was there a foreign connection to terrorism? what do we know? >> well, we don't know the answer to that question. the big gap here is what was the older brother doing in russia for six months last year? he leaves in january, arrives in july, and the russians have told the fbi that they were a little worried about him. but what was he doing during all that time in russia? his father says he was visiting him, that he went to see his family,...
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and pete williams saying there has been though arrest made. the fbi coming out and confirming that. we've got video of somebody setting down a bag, but no idea. they also have what they call solid leads, but no arrests. that's what we stand as we hit 3:00 p.m. eastern time. >> we'll continue to follow it on cnbc. thank you very much for watching "street signs." >>> and we do welcome you to this edition of the "closing bell," a back and forth day of epic proportions for the markets and the news. i'm bill griffeth here at cnbc headquarters. >> and i'm michelle crusoe down here at the new york stock exchange, bill. let's go through what we know at this hour, one hour before the close. the news related to the boston bombings, certainly moving the markets back and forth today. here's what we know definitively. video shows is someone setting down a bag near the bomb location. authorities have told nbc news there are solid leads, but no arrest has been made yet. we've heard that now from numerous sources, including the fbi. no one has been specifically identified. we are waiting, however,
and pete williams saying there has been though arrest made. the fbi coming out and confirming that. we've got video of somebody setting down a bag, but no idea. they also have what they call solid leads, but no arrests. that's what we stand as we hit 3:00 p.m. eastern time. >> we'll continue to follow it on cnbc. thank you very much for watching "street signs." >>> and we do welcome you to this edition of the "closing bell," a back and forth day of epic...
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pete williams is still with us. and there seems to be a key period in his life, six months when he went back to russia. his father says that he went to visit him, but i guess the key question is, was it at that point that he somehow was radicalized? >> well, that's a -- that's one question. and the second question is, where did these -- where did this expertise really you have to say with explosives come from. i mean, these two -- if you think about it, it's -- yes, the design of the devices was sort of basically out of the, you know, anarchist cookbook or right off the internet of how to make a bomb in a pressure cooker. it's unfortunately very sadly on the internet. but it's still difficult to make it work. and you add to that the fact that they managed to set off two bombs with some apparently sophistication in how they were detonated, whether they were by a timer or remote control. that certainly you assume is not something that you could do if you were just trying to build a bomb for the very first time. in mos
pete williams is still with us. and there seems to be a key period in his life, six months when he went back to russia. his father says that he went to visit him, but i guess the key question is, was it at that point that he somehow was radicalized? >> well, that's a -- that's one question. and the second question is, where did these -- where did this expertise really you have to say with explosives come from. i mean, these two -- if you think about it, it's -- yes, the design of the...
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joining us massachusetts governor deval patrick, nbc's justice correspondent pete williams, chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers of michigan, former homeland security secretary michael chertoff, former director of the national counterterrorism center michael l liter. then, how the marathon bombings changed things after such painful loss. >> anybody that knew her loved her. >> there were powerful signs of resilience. alongside a renewed sense of vulnerability as a manhunt virtually shut down a major american city. we hear from assistant senate majority leader dick durbin of illinois, and our special roundtable. >>> and good sunday morning. what a week it has been. developments are still moving very quickly in the boston terror story. we want to go for the very latest this morning to the governor of massachusetts, deval patrick, who is with us this morning from boston. it's good to see you and congratulations on the end of a very difficult week. >> well, i accept your congratulations on behalf of the extraordinary team of law enforcement folks who have done this the
joining us massachusetts governor deval patrick, nbc's justice correspondent pete williams, chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers of michigan, former homeland security secretary michael chertoff, former director of the national counterterrorism center michael l liter. then, how the marathon bombings changed things after such painful loss. >> anybody that knew her loved her. >> there were powerful signs of resilience. alongside a renewed sense of vulnerability as a...
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a simulcast with brian williams and pete williams. you and i were getting unconfirmed reports of a boat with a body in it. >> there is a boat with what looks like a body under a blue tarp on the last house on franklin street in watertown. we hadn't had that confirmed. pete williams has not completely confirmed that yet. it appears that they have surrounded the area. people standing outside just now on our camera don't appear terribly concerned. we don't have an identification of this body so we don't know if this is the suspect or some other citizen. but -- so that is one question. right now, by the way, just looking at the white house picture behind you, there's a tornado warning. >> i can hear it. >> we are getting august weather. >> the white house, as you can see, is working behind you and in that white house within an hour or so we understand the president spoke to vladimir putin. >> let's go to erica hill on the scene. can you confirm what you're getting about a boat, blood, a body, and whatever? >> reporter: we have not had tha
a simulcast with brian williams and pete williams. you and i were getting unconfirmed reports of a boat with a body in it. >> there is a boat with what looks like a body under a blue tarp on the last house on franklin street in watertown. we hadn't had that confirmed. pete williams has not completely confirmed that yet. it appears that they have surrounded the area. people standing outside just now on our camera don't appear terribly concerned. we don't have an identification of this body...
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pete williams in washington. thank you very much. >> okay. >> let's head across town to capitol hill where kelly o'donnell is following political reactions to the investigation. kelly, we do understand that all senators will have the opportunity to be briefed about boston tomorrow. what can you tell us about that angle? >> they have this meeting already scheduled. they do it periodically where they give senators insights on classified material from the administration. and so this is an opportunity now to focus it on boston. we're hearing from a number of senators we talked to in the hallways and so forth who say they are getting a good level of informing coming from the fbi and obama administration at this point. there are things we are learning in classified settings they can't talk about publicly yet. but there has been some dispute today about whether or not the fbi had been contacted by russian authority more than once. there may be some terminology that is confusing that or perhaps there's other reporting. b
pete williams in washington. thank you very much. >> okay. >> let's head across town to capitol hill where kelly o'donnell is following political reactions to the investigation. kelly, we do understand that all senators will have the opportunity to be briefed about boston tomorrow. what can you tell us about that angle? >> they have this meeting already scheduled. they do it periodically where they give senators insights on classified material from the administration. and so...
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let's turn to pete williams. >> i think a couple things here. he says -- the two bombers are that's the relationship there. he says they came in early 2003 heard this morning that the family received asylum. and then you may recall that later this morning, the father in russia, and the uncle just said that his brother did go back to russia, so that explains that. you just said something about whether he didn't know if they'd traveled. and that reminds me that undoubtedly right now federal authorities are checking their travel records, these two young men, to see if they ever did go overseas to any kind of terror training camp, because we had heard that they had military experience. that was the initial assessment we had heard from several sources this morning. well, if they came here a decade ago and the one they're looking for still is only 19 years old, obviously he didn't have any military experience at the age of 9 before he came here. and the brother is 26, so i suppose it's possible that he might have had a
let's turn to pete williams. >> i think a couple things here. he says -- the two bombers are that's the relationship there. he says they came in early 2003 heard this morning that the family received asylum. and then you may recall that later this morning, the father in russia, and the uncle just said that his brother did go back to russia, so that explains that. you just said something about whether he didn't know if they'd traveled. and that reminds me that undoubtedly right now federal...
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nbc's pete williams confirmed that at least one of them was spotted and is believed to be a pressure cooker-type bomb, a pressure cooker from your standard kitchen filled with some sort of powder and perhaps projectiles. at other times, they were described as having something like grenades or improvised explosives. i've seen some reports in the last few minutes that there are believed to be undetonated explosive devices in the watertown area. that's why they're trying to get people as far away as possible. >> chris, thank you very much. we'll have more from nbc news's chris palone in the program. a quick check off markets for you. global markets are taking these event necessary stride. we know very little still about the motives, about these suspects, beyond the fact that one has been skilled and the other is on the run and authorities are trying, of course, to resolve this situation there. we'll be right back. stay with us here on "worldwide exchange." >>> welcome to "worldwide exchange." a manhunt is under way from watertown, massachusetts, for suspect number two in the post bo mar
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pete william is back with us now. what do we know today? >> well, first of all the charges themselves. two bombing charges that could carry the death penalty. that's interesting in this case because as you know, the commonwealth of massachusetts does not have the death penalty in the state system. so this federal case would be the only capital case filed. the government obviously is a long way from deciding whether to seek the death penalty but it is a death eligible case. in term of the narrative that we get out of the criminal complaint, here are the main points, it seem to me. they first of all say that a video taken from a restaurant at the scene of bombing site number two. so here's the street at which people are going by. here is the sidewalk. here's this restaurant. and on the doorway of the restaurant is a camera looking back down toward the street. what they say they can see on the camera is the person identified as dzhokhar tsarnaev come into the view with his backpack on. he work his way into the crowd. he is talking on a cell ph
pete william is back with us now. what do we know today? >> well, first of all the charges themselves. two bombing charges that could carry the death penalty. that's interesting in this case because as you know, the commonwealth of massachusetts does not have the death penalty in the state system. so this federal case would be the only capital case filed. the government obviously is a long way from deciding whether to seek the death penalty but it is a death eligible case. in term of the...
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pete williams and chuck todd join us next. you're watching "morning joe" live from boston. >>> on days like this, there are no republicans and democrats, we are americans united in concern for our fellow citizens. i've also spoken with governor patrick and made it clear they have every federal resource necessary to care for the victims and counsel the families. and above all, i made clear to them that all americans stand with the people of boston. >> clear the set. >> that was president obama yesterday, and as you see in washington, d.c. on capitol hill, flags are at half staff this morning. joining us now from washington, nbc chief news white house correspondent and political director and host of the "daily rundown" chuck todd. and pete williams with the latest on the investigation. pete, we'll start with you. bring us up to date. >> okay, mika. one of the confusing things about what's going on here is how many devices were there. now, obviously we know there were two. the two that went off. but we've been hearing for all of
pete williams and chuck todd join us next. you're watching "morning joe" live from boston. >>> on days like this, there are no republicans and democrats, we are americans united in concern for our fellow citizens. i've also spoken with governor patrick and made it clear they have every federal resource necessary to care for the victims and counsel the families. and above all, i made clear to them that all americans stand with the people of boston. >> clear the set....
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nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is on the case with the latest in the investigation. pete, what are we learning now? what are the ratest, first of all, from dzhokhar tsarnaev, and do they believe he and his brother were lone wolfs? >> you may recall that the charges against him were actually filed under seal on sunday, he had his initial appearance in the hospital on monday, and as far as we know, they haven't attempted to re-interview him since then. he's getting with his lawyers, trying to figure out how to proceed. in essence his's confessed already. he's told authorities that he and his brother did it, he's given a reason why, their opposition to the wars in iraq and afghanistan, which think thought were attacks on islam. and he said they were not inspired by foreign countries or foreign interests that they came up with this plot on their own, and that's largely what he said. there are other little details. so i think it will be a while yet before they're able to talk to him any more. >> we're hearing there was some confusion yesterday, because after a briefing fo
nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is on the case with the latest in the investigation. pete, what are we learning now? what are the ratest, first of all, from dzhokhar tsarnaev, and do they believe he and his brother were lone wolfs? >> you may recall that the charges against him were actually filed under seal on sunday, he had his initial appearance in the hospital on monday, and as far as we know, they haven't attempted to re-interview him since then. he's getting with his...
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more on that in a moment with pete williams. but developments come just before the house intelligence house committee posed a closed door briefing on the bombing about two hours from now. on capitol hill yesterday, intelligence officials briefed senate and house committees in classified hearings, committee members say the details revealed were troubling. >> we talked a lot about connecting the dots and stove pipes after t9/11 and here we ae 12 years later and it is still not working. what i would like to know is whether or not the department of homeland security shared that information with the fbi and joint terrorism passing force that could have possibly led to opening this lead investigation back up on the older brother. >> there may be some systems things that we need to work out here, but i don't know, it is a legitimate question to discuss as to whether any one of the 20,000 tips, even the ones that come up negative, are then passed on to local law enforcement. at some point, this is america. >> that is troubling to me tha
more on that in a moment with pete williams. but developments come just before the house intelligence house committee posed a closed door briefing on the bombing about two hours from now. on capitol hill yesterday, intelligence officials briefed senate and house committees in classified hearings, committee members say the details revealed were troubling. >> we talked a lot about connecting the dots and stove pipes after t9/11 and here we ae 12 years later and it is still not working. what...
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. >> let's bring in nbc's justice correspondent, pete williams. so, pete, i can't help the system pinged. that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about precisely how this was handled, but if you step back, there's a larger question here. that is when a foreign government gives us potentially derogatory information about someone, stop right there. should that create an entry for that person in the system? then keep going down the process. here, the fbi says they looked thoroughly at him, as much as they were allowed to do during this legal operation they're going in in this initial threat assessment. they find nothing
. >> let's bring in nbc's justice correspondent, pete williams. so, pete, i can't help the system pinged. that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he...